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grandpawrichard
07-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Hey Guys and Girls,
I finally took some time out today to sit and write a quick product review on my Newberry LB1. I hope that you gleen something out of my ramblings. ;) :) :D


Newberry LB1 Bow Review

By Dick Raymond

I recently purchased a brand new Newberry LB1 dual cam bow and I have now had a little time to shoot it.

When I received the bow via UPS, I was delighted to find that the bow was shipped in a Plano bow case. This indeed protected my investment because the shipping box had quite a few dings, crush marks and holes poked in it. The box was in such bad shape that I made the UPS guy stand there while I inspected the contents of the box!

My first impression of the bow was WOW! It has very nice distinctive lines, the camo paint job is second to none in detail and it looks to be as durable as any other bow on the market.

I ordered my bow with both the Competition grip and the Hunter model grip. At first I did not like the Competition grip at all. It is a High Wrist grip model. Normally I shoot with a Low wrist grip to gain every bit of accuracy I can. I was advised by Richard at Newberry that with a little bit of sanding I can bring that grip down to an angle more to my liking. This is one thing that I plan to do very soon. I have noticed that I have become very much used to the high grip on this bow and I have started to become much more accurate with it.

To date I have not put the Hunter Model grip on the bow. I figured that I would do that at a later date and then report my findings. I never was an archer that liked to change a lot of things on my bow all at once. I always like to change one thing at a time and do minor adjustments to that item until I get it set like I want to for accuracy.

Now we come to the shooting department. I have been totally Impressed with the way the bow is so Quiet! I personally feel that it is a lot more quiet than any of the PSE bows that I own, including my top of the line PSE Mach-11 Target bow!

Then we come to the hand shock area; or should I say Lack of Hand shock? Upon release the bow does not jump, twitch or vibrate! So far, all I have installed on the bow for Vibration and Hand shock suppression is a GKF Tranquilizer Stabilizer. Even without the stabilizer I can’t seem to feel any vibration!

I have even shot the bow without a wrist strap and I totally opened my grip to check to see if the bow would jump forward after the shot. Much to my surprise, the bow just sat in my hand! I personally think that this bow is superbly built and balanced!

Now for the way I have the bow setup. I have set the draw length at 28 ½ inches, the draw weight is 52 pounds according to my scales. I have a Golden Key Futura Mirage Dropaway rest installed on the bow. The Factory strings and cables, a peep sight, a Dloop and served in nocking points.
I setup the dropaway rest so that it comes up in the last 1 to 1 ½ inches of the draw cycle. My nocking point is set 1/8 th. inch nock high.

Today I finally got the chance to shoot the bow thru the Chronograph and I was pleasantly surprised at the arrow speeds from this bow with my short draw length and Low poundage.

I used the following arrows to test out the speed of the bow:

PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s with 75 grain field tips
PSE Carbon Force Competition Pro 200’s with 100 grain field tips
Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s with 75 grain field tips
HCA Carbon Revolution Speed Pro Premium with 100 grain field tips

All of these arrows are Full Length shafts. All of these arrows are equipped with Turbo Nock Hunter model nocks. Every component was weighed on a digital scale and every arrow weighs the same weight thru the dozen plus or minus 3/10 ths of a grain.

The PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s had a total weight of 265.4 grains
The PSE Carbon Force Competition Pro 200’s had a total weight of 390.6 grains
The Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s had a total weight of 366.0 grains
The HCA Carbon Revolution Speed Pro Premium weighed in at 336.6

Here are my speed findings thru a Chrony brand Chronograph:

PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s:
248.2 248.9 248.3 248.1 248.7 248.0 248.6 248.5 248.1 248.4 248.7 248.6

PSE Carbon Force Competition Pro 200’s
241.3 243.1 244.4 243.2 243.4 243.3 244.0 243.5 243.7 243.2 243.8 243.6

Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s
241.9 243.6 243.5 242.9 243.4 243.3 243.7 243.2 243.1 243.8 243.5 243.6

HCA Carbon Revolution Speed Pro Premium
256.5 256.4 256.7 256.3 256.8 256.2 256.0 256.1 255.3 256.5 256.2 256.8

So, according to my rough figure the arrows averaged out in speed to:

PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s with 75 grain field tips: 248.425 feet per second

PSE Carbon Force Competition Pro 200’s with 100 grain field tips: 243.375 fps.

Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s with 75 grain field tips: 243.291 fps

HCA Carbon Revolution Speed Pro Premium with 100 grain field tips: 256.316 fps.

I realize that my speed test is not very scientific because I used different weights of field tips, but I was just too lazy to change all of the higher weight points. Besides, I have found through previous testing to get proper arrow flight that these were the tip weights to use for those arrows.

I also realize that at my current draw weight and my short 28 ½ inch draw length setting that I will never see the full benefits of the LB1 Newberry; but I’m very happy with the results that I have seen so far.

As I have a more time to do more testing, I will report my findings. I just wanted to put this much together so that it might answer some questions that a few people have asked me. I sincerely hope that I have not bored anyone to death and that this review has answered a few questions.

Dick

petew
07-12-2004, 08:56 PM
Are you sure about the chrono numbers.
Your heavier arrows are shooting faster than the lighter ones in places.{200's/beman.}
Looks like something got mixed up.

grandpawrichard
07-13-2004, 12:47 AM
Yup, I'm sure! We kept seperate sheets on every brand of arrows. I just checked and rechecked the stats.
If you notice, the beeman's only had a 75 grain tip on them, as did the CF 100's.

PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s:
248.2 248.9 248.3 248.1 248.7 248.0 248.6 248.5 248.1 248.4 248.7 248.6
The PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s had a total weight of 265.4 grains
PSE Carbon Force Dominator 100’s with 75 grain field tips

Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s
241.9 243.6 243.5 242.9 243.4 243.3 243.7 243.2 243.1 243.8 243.5 243.6
The Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s had a total weight of 366.0 grains
Beeman Carbon Swift 45/60’s with 75 grain field tips.

I'm going to be doing some more testing and this time all of the arrows will have the same tips on them. First test will be 75 grain tips, second test will be 100 grain tips and the last will be the 125 grain tips. That should make it a little more even across the board and show what happens to the arrow spine.

Dick

Dick

petew
07-13-2004, 07:28 AM
Seems strange that 100 grain arrow weight diference is only 4FPS diference?

grandpawrichard
07-13-2004, 10:55 PM
Pete,
OH, Sheeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooottttttttttttt! I just went over my shooting partners arrow sheets and I did read them Wrong on that set of arrows! They all should be 365.4 grains! I did indeed do a typo! If I was shooting a 265.4 grain arrow it would almost be like dry firing my bow!

I guess I should have been more careful as I typed and then rechecked everything! Not only that, but my shooting partner is Left handed, so his writing is a bit hard for me to read!

Thanks for catching and questioning that! :oops: :oops: :oops: :( :oops: :oops: :oops:

Dick

petew
07-13-2004, 11:09 PM
LOL
Did the same guy weigh the arrows?it seems unlikely that 4 diferent shafts ended up at exactly the same weight????????

grandpawrichard
07-14-2004, 03:17 PM
Pete,
A couple of the brands of arrows had to be culled out of 4 dozen arrows per brand to get all of the arrow weights as close as possible. :(

I'm very anal about matching my equipment up as close as possible, especially when it comes to arrows! I weigh all the components and get them as close as humanly possible. My wife says I'm way to much of a perfectionist when I start putting equipment together :shock: But that's the way I like to be. :)

The High Country arrows were the most exact matches in weight of all the brands I used; and that was right out of the package! :)

Dick

petew
07-14-2004, 04:34 PM
What is the grains per inch for those shafts and how long are the ones you tested with.

grandpawrichard
07-14-2004, 11:39 PM
All my arrow shafts are Full length!
The lowest weight shafts that I shoot are the HCA Carbon Revolution Speed Pro's and they weigh in at 5.5 grains.

Dick