View Full Version : 40 lbs Vs. 70lbs draw weight
JaJaFoFo
09-17-2007, 06:11 PM
i'm thinking of buying a new bow but i don't have enought money for a cross bow is a
40 lbs draw strong enought to take out a moose at 50 yard with an arrow that weighs about 100 grams or should i get a 70 lbs or 150 lbs draw
Grunter
09-18-2007, 08:19 AM
I can't offer much help for you as I have no experience or knowledge of crossbows and likley never will but what I can tell you is that you will need to achieve a kinetic energy of 40-80 ft-lbs to hunt moose with a bow or crossbow.
That said, you should talk to a proshop to find out what setup you will need. Based on the info you've provided I can surely comment that 100gr arrow is not possible, you must only be referring to a broadhead weight.
You will need to find an arrow that when cut to the size required for your draw length will be at least 350 grains with the broadhead. Then you will need to tune your bow/crossbow to an acceptable draw weight that will get you over 250fps at a minimum to get the kinteic energy required - keep in mind that you will need gear capable of providing this speed all the while not causing a draw weight that you cannot comfortably draw and hold for at least one minute. No point in cranking it up to 70lbs. if you can barely draw your bow.
A wise man once told me that if you can sit cross-legged on the ground, draw and hold your bow at full draw then and only then is the weight set correctly. Not sure if the more veteran shooters out there can validate that or not but in my opinion its a good place to start for someone new to the sport (I started this way and it only helped me develop my skills and confidence).
acearchery
09-18-2007, 12:13 PM
The answer is No!...
First of all a 40lb compound will only be able to penetrate a moose on an absolutely perfect shot!..... at 50 Yards the chance of an absolutely perfect shot with a novice archer!.....is almost zero!...
All I can say is practice lots first and if you want to know about archery hunting .... Take the International Bowhunter Education Program course!.....
Mikey
09-18-2007, 02:08 PM
seeing as how 100 GRAMS converts to about 1543 GRAINS .... The arc required for a 40 pound bow to shoot anything at that weight at 50 yards would be huge .... so much so it that the projectile would come thru the top as opposed to the side
I personally think 50 yards is a little far ... the idea which drew me to bowhunting is getting upclose and personal ...If I wanna reach out I will use my Bang stick
JaJaFoFo
09-18-2007, 02:11 PM
so a 70lbs or a 150lbs cross bow?
Travski
09-18-2007, 10:52 PM
I would suggest a good 60 lb bow myself what is easy to shoot and has some good speed to it. I personally think crossbows are useless that is my oppinion alone not anyone elses that i know of I have shot them and they did not impress me at all
I would go with a good 60lb bow and practice until i was confident with it
Travis
JaJaFoFo
09-19-2007, 04:52 AM
thanks
acearchery
09-20-2007, 12:24 PM
I would go with a good 60lb bow and practice until i was confident with it
amen Brotha!....
As for crossbows... you will have to talk to a crossbow guy!....
i'm thinking of buying a new bow but i don't have enought money for a cross bow is a
40 lbs draw strong enought to take out a moose at 50 yard with an arrow that weighs about 100 grams or should i get a 70 lbs or 150 lbs draw
Short answer is yes - there's caveats of course. A well tuned arrow and a cut on contact broadhead will both be a necessity and you really need to reconsider the yardage. 30 would be a max & 20 preferred (and yes you can get that close! :D)
efford1
12-21-2007, 10:02 PM
my first question as a coach is , how old are you? under 25? if so a 50 lb bow at your correct draw lenght , proper arrows, perfect practise and a 25 yd shot broadside into the lungs/ heart area will do the job cleanly xbows are ok if they are of newer design,older 10 years ago, types lacked sufficient speed to get good penetration.yes lots of you have killed lots of animals with your turn of the century gear , but lbh, it realy is old tech,the newer xbows ,compounds etc have better ballistics, but are still not as good as a bow. they are louder , awkward to handle, and heavy.just my $.02 though, choose one practise with it, ge to know its balistic curve then go hunting small game first to see what it does/doesn't do for you.just advice, like underwear, everybody got it........:hump:
petew
12-22-2007, 09:00 AM
http://peteward.com/rodneystalker/shannon1.JPG
This is what 39# @ 27" can do in the hands of a good hunter that gets up close and personal with his quarry..{Shanon Kuzic}
In the review look at the broadhead recovered from the far shoulder, and see how it is bent. With the proper arrows ,yes 40 even in a modest trad bow will do the job if you do your job.
Bow hunting is about getting close, not long range shooting.
http://peteward.com/test.stalker.html
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