Elk "High Fence" ranch hunting??

[GRANDSLAM]

Their is some huge controversy over Elk hunting on High Fence ranches!, just like to hear everyones thought on that type of hunting. I personally do not agree with that type of hunting!, hunting game in the wild is the way to go for me.

http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2005/10/18/amazing-502-world-record-bull-elk/

:D

[swalker]

I have to agree with you GRANDSLAM. I would not call that hunting.Anyone can shot the milk cow in the barnyard!

[394-NTELK]

If its a yes or no answer I say no.

[Joey]

An elk farm is used to supply elk meat to people and restaurants, and to collect the velvet for medicines. The only difference between an elk farm and a "hunting ranch" is how far you need to drive the tractor to go feed. I even heard of of a ranch in the states that rounds up all the whitetail bucks, sedates them, puts a tape on them for the hunter, then auctions them off over and above the hunting fee. Whats the difference between a game farm, and a hunting ranch? I say nothing. So the farmer next door owns more land than the first guy. Same business. Get out there and hunt. Dont ask someone to bring you a trophy.

[RubberDuck]

I couldn't of said it better Joey.

[brotherjack]

Well, for me personally, I'm pretty annoyed I have to pay $15 a tag for deer in the first place; so you will certainly NEVER catch me paying big bucks to go on a pen hunt.

My other thought is, that if you stick the animals on small plots with high fences, that's not hunting, that's just slaughtering. If you're into that sort of thing, I got no problems with you or someone else doing it, but it's not my thing.

But my third thought, is that some of these ranches are many thousands of acres with a fence around them; and to me, I fail to see how that's any different than the public land I hunt on. There's fences on public land too, because they run cattle on public range lands all summer, and there's lots of fences out in the bush to keep herd's separated. Fence lines are great places to hunt, because unless pressured, critters will travel along them and stay within them rather than jump them. So why is it somehow 'fair chase' if I hunt say a 100 acre fenced section of public land, but it's not 'fair chase' if I hunt a 1,000 acre fenced section of private land? Honestly, I don't understand the logic there.

While we're on the topic of 'fair chase': it's considered 'fair chase' to hire a guide who's spent months in the bush scouting, and (if he's a good guide), can put any idiot in the right spot to have an opportunity to shoot a trophy. You might as well turn the hunter loose in a 10 acre fenced area with the critter, his odds of getting a shot at a trophy are pretty much the same. So why is one considered upright and noble hunting, and the other considered unadulterated evil?

I guess my conclusion is, that I fail to see where there's any logic in what people deem 'fair chase', and what they don't. It all looks pretty much like arbitrary rules that people make up, so that hunting can be a 'sport', rather than a simple old fashioned way to put meat on the table.

[Grunter]

Their is some huge controversy over Elk hunting on High Fence ranches!, just like to hear everyones thought on that type of hunting. I personally do not agree with that type of hunting!, hunting game in the wild is the way to go for me.

http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2005/10/18/amazing-502-world-record-bull-elk/

:D


Where the heck you been Adam - I posted this blog link last Thursday! :rofl:

[GRANDSLAM]

Hey Lonnie!, I did not know that you had posted the link!, as for where I have been??, Work! and Sleep!.

[lethalconnection]

all i got to say is "canned hunt" thats all it is in my eyes and i think it should be outlawed because the animals have no fighting chance what so ever.

[Taxman]

No question at all.

WRONG...WRONG....WRONG.

Eat beef if that's your fancy.

Mike

[Dillershortbow]

Its not hunting its killing but there is a place for it i buy a bison once in a while its not a hunt but i get to shoot it with anything i like. How else can i shoot one besides waiting for a tag for 5 years. I would not hunt elk in a high fence but id like to hunt one of those porkers on a fenced hog ranch.

[scott_r]

All these penned up hunts do is spread a negative spotlight on all sportsman. I really wish Saskatchewan would get rid of them and promote Fair chase.

Cheers!!

[fishnutz4ever]

Brotherjack has some valid points. Nothing is ever black and white, two sides to every story, insert more cliches, blah, blah. As much as I hate the thought of penned hunts, some of these hunting ranches are huge. Don't deer live in the same relatively small section of land for most of their lives, so if the ranch is bigger than their natural roaming range, what's the difference? Same thing for guides. Some of these guys are paid big dollars to keep an eye on every friggin' animal in their range. They are out there every day learning the animals routines, habits, etc. So come hunting season how much of a fair chase is it really? Some people only have a few days to hunt for the year or two so they want to be spoon fed and will pay for it. Relax guys, just playing devils advocate, but maybe you see the point. I would definitely say no to High fence ranch hunting if it came down to it just to prevent any kind of precedent. However, seems they are already out there everywhere so the precedent is already set. People will do ANYTHING for the almighty dollar, integrity, honesty, and certainly fair chase aside. Supply and demand. If there is a want for something then one of our brothers will certainly find a way to supply it for lots o' cash. No sir I don't like it one bit, however, I would like to arrow a 300+ elk sometime. Hmmm, I see the dilemma. I still think I'll set up in the Porkies next fall to chase the critters around some more, slinging arrows, and calling in road hunters. LOL. Later.