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HOYTarcher
07-14-2005, 09:00 AM
McMahon busted again!

How does this guy stay in business?
Many of you likely read about him being busted and convicted in 2003 (see link) for fraud and other illegal activities.

http://www.bowzone.ca/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=195

He was caught again recently see story below.

Outfitter caught baiting: Vegreville District

A Lloydminster man’s illegal activity came to a halt after Fish and Wildlife officers located a client hunting over a pile of bait. On Mar. 1, 2005 Lloyd A. McMahon, 54, of Lloydminster, Saskatchewan was convicted on the charge of setting out prohibited items (bait) as specified to hunt big game. As a result, McMahon was handed a $12,500 fine and a seized hunting stand was ordered forfeited to the Crown. This judgement arose as a result of trial on Jan. 18, 2005. On Nov. 24, 2003 Vegreville and Vermillion Fish and Wildlife officers were working in an area southeast of Two Hills. A foot patrol into property in the area found a non-resident alien hunter that was hunting white-tailed deer from a stand. The stand was overlooking a pile of bait found about 150 metres away. The bait consisted of oats and peas recently placed there that would naturally attract deer. The property the non-alien resident was hunting on was native bush and parkland with no areas broken up for cropland or pasture. The stand and bait was located in a dried up slough bottom. A trail had been cleared through the bush from the main access road to get to the slough and stand. The trail that provided access to this location was beyond a locked gate and was also posted to keep people out. The client provided his co-operation by advising, in a statement, his activity and knowledge of the bait and licensing arrangements to hunt deer in Alberta. Further investigation revealed that the property was owned by McMahon and that his company had contracted the hunt with the non-resident alien. A search warrant was executed on the property the following day. The stand was dismantled, seized and ordered forfeited.



APOS is supposed to have a code of ethics and the ability to shut down bad outfitters. Why are Great White Holdings and McMahon allowed to continue to outfit/guide in Alberta.

Many may remember the outcry that followed Great White Holdings being allowed to advertise in the Hunting Regulation the first year they went private due McMahons previous record. The ads were subsequently pulled. Again where is APOS on this issue and why is nothing being done to pull this guys licence!!

scooter
07-14-2005, 09:14 AM
Again?! When will he learn?

Ugh....

HOYTarcher
07-14-2005, 09:18 AM
Its not when he will learn, but what is APOS doing about it. They are supposed to be able to regulate this sort of thing. I remember talking to the President of APOS when McMahon first advertised in the regs and being told that everything he had done had occured before APOS existed so they couldn't do anything.

Well he's being charged, tried and found guilty twice since that time where is APOS and what are they going to do to get this guy out of the outfitting industry.

WOOKIE
07-14-2005, 09:30 AM
I had posted the same questions to the past president of APOS and he basically brushed me off. I never did get a straight answer. I think it is time for answers from APOS.

bdoa
07-14-2005, 11:58 AM
The truth is they can't do anything about him. They can take away his licence, but his son will get one, or his wife, or nephew, and Lloyd will still run the business. APOS will not take away his tags.. He owns half a million dollars in tags, they can't just walk in and take them.
Should they..yes, but how do you justify taking that kind of money for wildlife crimes?
If a guy kills another person, he goes to jail, but you don't take away his house, or car, or business. APOS has its hands tied buy this guy...
Fish & wildlife decides how many allocations are given out each year, they are the top dog, why don't they take them away, instead of fines which don't hurt this guy at all ...
Apos if they wanted could stop him from purchaceing more allocations. BUT then
APOS is too busy fighting the metis poeple to worry about their own proffesional poachers.. lol :hump:

Mikey
07-14-2005, 02:53 PM
I originnally read that article in the Notebook section of Alberta Game Warden magazine ..... If APOS wont/Cant do anything ..... I personally think the crown should go after him for jail time or conditional release ....one condintion would be to the effect of not having anything to do with outfitting /guiding or any hunting activity If caught breaking those conditions he should be sent up the hill for some serious time

Wapiti
07-14-2005, 04:32 PM
I originnally read that article in the Notebook section of Alberta Game Warden magazine ..... If APOS wont/Cant do anything ..... I personally think the crown should go after him for jail time or conditional release ....one condintion would be to the effect of not having anything to do with outfitting /guiding or any hunting activity If caught breaking those conditions he should be sent up the hill for some serious time


I agree the crown should do something :****ed:

antlerman
11-07-2005, 06:22 PM
I have heard horror stories of McMahon that most guys wouldnt even believe. they are all true cause they have come from clients mouths that have hunted with him.Mabey he has to do all this illegal stuff to get his hunters deer cause he is a poor hunter himself.ha ha. :nono: